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  1. MrAnderson41
    Member

    Just ordered my copy of the Guide. I figured I'd show my support of the site.

    An update for those of you that care. A little over a month ago we finally got fed up with the PP-600W breaking all the time and came across a PP-600A. It was a deal we couldn't pass up so we jumped on it and have been making 200+ lbs of pellets an hour now. The 600A suits our needs just fine since we pretty much run strictly Cedar. Overall I am very pleased with this machine and from my experience the 600W design has plenty of kinks that need to be worked out before I'd recommend it but I know some people (msteif) has been able to get it to run reliably.

    ~Ken

    Posted 9 months ago #
  2. MrAnderson glad to hear every thing is going well.Have not heard much from every one out there so I take it that all is well and every one is busy making pellets.That is the way it is here in mi.Hey viper you in the deep freeze yet?

    Posted 9 months ago #
  3. hey jide ready for another demo or you just hunt'in deer with your truck???

    Posted 9 months ago #
  4. MrAnderson41
    Member

    We call that kind of hunting "red neck" hunting.

    As for the pellets, that is exactly what we've been up to now that we've got the new machine. It runs like a dream compared to the 600W. The only problem we've been having is every so often the machine really heats up and kind of bogs down and plugs up. When it does this it spits out really nice pellets but not very much at a time. If it operates like this for an extended period it overheats the motor though. We think we've determined this is more likely to occur when the sawdust is too dry because when we run at around 11% the machine runs like a champ (250~320 lbs/hr) and we run out of space to cool pellets.

    Posted 9 months ago #
  5. MrAnderson41
    Member

    Played around with the mill again last night. I'm starting to wonder if my roller settings have something to do with the machine bogging down sometimes. How do you guys set your rollers for machines in which the die spins and the rollers are stationary?

    Posted 9 months ago #
  6. sxviper04
    Member

    jide, what are the measurements (wxlxh) and correct angle for the top tapers? viper

    Posted 9 months ago #
  7. Hey Folks,

    I had pretty good success making leaf pellets this fall. I basically ran the leaves through my chipper shredder (reduced to about 1/2" flakes), and fed them directly into the mill. The freshly fallen leaves were at almost perfect moisture content and all of the pellets you see in the video were made in one pass. No binder was needed. I still find that the whole process works best if you can somehow regulate the flow of leaves into the hopper on the press to where the leaf mulch is fed into the hopper at a rate where the tops of the rollers are never covered. I still find that if I just dump in a huge pile of leaf mulch (basically fill the funnel) it actually starts making the pellets slower.

    anyway, I put a short vid of the pellets burning in my P-61 at:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7fNpKz2Z6no

    I have excellent success in burning the leaf pellets, and an unlimited supply of them in the fall :)

    cheers

    -todd

    Posted 9 months ago #
  8. Hey Todd, great video, by the way that engine looks familar? In your next video we'd appreciate a plug for the forum, what do you think? Thanks admin.

    Posted 9 months ago #
  9. Actually a few members have asked me to get the word out about out forum, and I of course have where I'm able to, but there are many places that I have not heard of or that I am not allowed by some forum admins to post, since I would be promoting (advertising) and they frown on that of course. So any or all of you are welcome to help get the word out by posting a link like this one: www.makeyourownpellets.com/forum to any forum or website, you feel wood benefit from knowing about us. Thanks, Admin.

    Posted 9 months ago #
  10. Hi Admin,

    I did plug the forum and even included a link to makeyourownpellets in the vid description!

    Posted 9 months ago #
  11. Ahh yes I did find it after all. You have to click "more info" below the "subscribe" button.Then it let's you read the entire description. Thanks lodcomm!

    Posted 8 months ago #
  12. HAPPY HOLIDAYS TO EVERY ONE ON THE FOURM AND TO THE ADMIN WHO IS A TRUE GRINCH.HE HAS NOT SENT ANY OF US ANY GIFTS! BAH HUMBUG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Posted 8 months ago #
  13. mstief
    Member

    mstief
    Member

    If the party is going to be at JIDES can you at least wait until it's a little warmer besides which I can't get out of my yard snowed about 20" here in the last two days and we are going to have another 4-6 tonite MERRY CHRISTMAS to everybody and a HAPPY NEW YEAR and to JIDE I haven't seen my gift either from the GRINCH I really like the new look
    Posted 3 minutes ago # Edit

    Posted 8 months ago #
  14. mstief
    Member

    Hey Jide how's that mixer working for you that you took from here hope it did what you wanted it to do

    Posted 8 months ago #
  15. MrAnderson41
    Member

    Brian,

    Just read the guide during my lunch break. It's a good read and I was glad I spent the money on it. Most of the information I had picked up from trying to make pellets over the last couple of months but it was nice to read someone else confirm the things I thought were happening. I do have some follow up questions and plan on sending you an email once I get home and get on my personal e-mail account.

    Thanks for the help,
    Ken

    Posted 8 months ago #
  16. nickg
    Member

    I just finished reading the guide , and for someone wanting to get into making is own pellets it is really informative ,I am also glad I purchased it, it is money well spent, It helps you realise what u are up against or if you should get in to it.
    Thank you for a great guide.

    Posted 8 months ago #
  17. MrAnderson41
    Member

    Brian,

    Regarding our conversation of RPM and resistance. It struck me this morning on my drive into work what you are saying. The actual resistance force (torque) required does not increase with RPM. And neither does the amount of work required to pelletize. But the Power required does increase with RPM. The reason for this is because you are trying to do the same amount of work in a shorter amount of time. I knew that you were on to something, I just couldn't explain it to myself until I had that eureka moment.

    Posted 8 months ago #
  18. By George I think you've got it! As Professor Higgins would say. Anyway, I believe you've hit the nail on the head. I appreciate the challenge questions. It's helps me too!

    Posted 8 months ago #
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    Posted 7 months ago #
  20. DES
    Member

    I read this whole thread from way back a year ago when it started up to the last page.
    Wow you guys are great at sharing info and helping each other and I think the management it great also the way help is offered on competitors products also.
    If I buy anything it will be from this site and I hope to join the ranks of the helpful.
    Currently I am a non-pellet maker just looking for lots of info and thinking I would like to make my own pellets to use instead of using fire wood.

    I have very cheap supply of oak slabs to burn here so paying $4-$5 a bag for pellets in my area and the large expense of a pellet stove is not really financially worthwhile for me. If burning 2 bags a day during the worst weather here for 30 days my heating cost would jump from maybe $100 for season to $300 in one month at least plus all the other times I would need some heat during the season.

    I would like using pellets better than slabs though for many reasons if it were not for the much higher cost.

    As for making pellets to sell, if my retail cost is $4 per 40lb bag, then it would take production of 120lbs per hour of WORK to make $12 per hour, then subtract all the expenses of production from that $12 per hour. Expenses of course being equipment, saw dust, fuel, repairs, binders, bags, etc.. etc...
    So if I had a steady market and ran good Oak pellets to sell on a regular basis eventually, would those of you making pellets now think it would be worth the investment and profitable for me to get into this?

    I see that softwoods is supposed to be better than hardwoods, however I am in a mostly OAK area I think. Flooring mills, pallet mills, etc.. so hardwood dust is what I would have most access to for a lower price.

    I am interested in pellets as a hobby also even if not worthwhile for me as an income, but I generally try to make my hobbies pay for themselves and be profitable when I can.

    Posted 7 months ago #
  21. DES
    Member

    In searching for information I am trying to see how the pellet mills actually work also, making the pellets.

    It seems to me that basically the round die turns under a couple rollers or the rollers turn over the dies. A layer of sawdust is dropped in from the top and the rollers mash it down through the holes in the die.
    The die has lots of 1/4" holes with a small taper of about 30 degree on the top. The rollers that I have seen seem to be smooth with a small grove running across them.

    If this is correct then it would seem the two main problems in building a mill would be holding die and rollers together to create the pressure needed to press dust through the holes to make pellets, and also a power source needs to be connected to drive the die or the rollers.

    I guess the big question then is how much pressure is created when pressing the dust under the rollers. Would this be about 1 ton, 2 ton, 20 ton?

    Posted 7 months ago #
  22. keith h
    Member

    so I JUST PICKED UP A 230 MILL, i HAVE NO MOTER ON IT PLAN ON USEING A CAR ENJION WHAT RPM SHOULD THIS MILL RUN AT?? I AM THINKING 1200
    THANKS KEITH.

    Posted 6 months ago #
  23. sxviper04
    Member

    well that depends. are you going to run with a pulley mounted to the flywheel, or use a tranny to reduce the ratio. mine is a chevy 250 with a 3 speed. i then had a 540 yoke made to adapt. word of advice, use a smaller engine. a 250 has more than enough power. ok, too much power! but you still have to put gas in it. viper

    Posted 6 months ago #
  24. keith h
    Member

    planed to use a subaru strate from crank on front of car to the mill. what rpm??

    Posted 6 months ago #
  25. sxviper04
    Member

    keith, i don't mean to burst your bubble. your mill more than likely has a 3/1 gear ratio. to make good pellets your die should turn around 100-125 rpm. so lets say you adjusted the throttle under load to 1000 rpm to have enough torque, you would be around 300-350 rpm on the mill. you need to reduce the gear ratio down. i turn at around 110 on the die. 1100 rpm on the engine, in 1st gear.

    Posted 6 months ago #
  26. keith h
    Member

    SO IN ORDER TO SLOW THE RPM AND HAVE THE TORK i should run threw trany?

    Posted 6 months ago #
  27. keith h
    Member

    the mill is 3:1 did you use a piller block ore a drive shaft/thanks
    .

    Posted 6 months ago #
  28. paulgeiger
    Member

    How can you view the photos on the website? I see the videos, but no pictures. (probably right in front of my eyes?!)
    Thanks.

    Posted 5 months ago #
  29. sxviper04
    Member

    i'll take some new pics today of my setup

    Posted 5 months ago #

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